Om Namo Venkateshaaya

Date: Fri Jan 5, 2007 10:59 pm
Subject: Facts About Tirumala Antireligious Activities !!!!!!! sowmya.raju
Om Namo Venkateshaaya

Namasthe,
I went through the discussions of Ravi Sir and Remo Sir, and also the Report of the Fact finding commitee that was responsible to
deliver the truth behind the Activities of christian elements in Tirumala and Tirupathi that was uploaded file by Pawan

Very nice to see so many in favour of Tirumala-tirupathi, but let me tell u the true incident that occured with me in tirumala hills....
On 19th December 2006 As I was through the Anjanaadri climbing the hills by foot,i noticed a local vendor smoking n selling the fruits
on telling him to stop smoking as it was banned in tirumala he was least bothered ,my words were in vain,no one supported in favour and
many pilgrims climbing the hills along with me said that we had just come to see God n we should not WASTE TIME in such arguments and
that we are just pilgrims and he was a localite.....
If this is the case then will all of us unite to fight for our culture n HINDUISM???????
It hurts a lot when such incidents occur...........
I want to share all the bad things i saw while i was climbing the hills
* many local vendors smoke and also the Maisons who are involved in the various constructions are seen smoking in Tirumala,which is
banned(hopefully)
*we see a lot of Tibetian Chowkidars in the hills who dont even know anything about SriVenkateshwara Swamy and Tirumala,and i think
that they are not Hindus (probably Buddist or Christians)
*also i found Gays near Mokala Parvatham busily asking money with the pilgrims climbing the hills
*even the temple duty personnals dont put the NAAMA or the Tilakam
I tried to call the Vigilance (whose telephone numbers are displayed in the hills) but of no use ,after reaching the top i Consulted the
local shopkeepers but the answer was "FORGET ALL THOSE THINGS its there here"
the security Officers Check all the pilgrims visiting Tirumala near Alipiri to make sure that cigarets,alcohol n non-veg and explosives are
not carried to top is all that in vains ???
All these are UNSEEN with OPEN EYES , UNSPOKE with speaking LIPS, UNTHOUGHT with THiNKING MINDS
When Muslims and Christians impose certain Compulsory Do's to enter their worship places WHY NOT WE IN OUR BHUVYKUNTAM
BRING IN STRICT CODE OF CONDUCT
IT hurts a Lot When I think OF Venkateshwara Swamy Who is Silently Tolerating all these bad activities of his So called Children and
Kindly Blessing us with all that we ask for and those we dont ask too !!!!!!!
Swamy Venkateshwara that day you told
" Parethranaaya Sadhunam Vinaashaaya Cha Dushkrutham
Dharma Shanshtapanaarthaaya Sambhavaami Yughe Yughe"
As you have assured God please come, atleast in the form of awareness and consiousness about the Dharma in our spoilt minds.........
We are waiting ..........

Vina Venkatesham nanathoananath
Sadaa Venkatesham Smarame Smaraame.....
Edu Kondala Swamy Govinda Govinda


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Date: Fri Jan 5, 2007 10:59 pm
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Om Namo Venkateshaaya

Namasthe,
I went through the discussions of Ravi Sir and Remo Sir, and also the Report of the Fact finding commitee that was responsible to
deliver the truth behind the Activities of christian elements in Tirumala and Tirupathi that was uploaded file by Pawan

Very nice to see so many in favour of Tirumala-tirupathi, but let me tell u the true incident that occured with me in tirumala hills....
On 19th December 2006 As I was through the Anjanaadri climbing the hills by foot,i noticed a local vendor smoking n selling the fruits
on telling him to stop smoking as it was banned in tirumala he was least bothered ,my words were in vain,no one supported in favour and
many pilgrims climbing the hills along with me said that we had just come to see God n we should not WASTE TIME in such arguments and
that we are just pilgrims and he was a localite.....
If this is the case then will all of us unite to fight for our culture n HINDUISM???????
It hurts a lot when such incidents occur...........
I want to share all the bad things i saw while i was climbing the hills
* many local vendors smoke and also the Maisons who are involved in the various constructions are seen smoking in Tirumala,which is
banned(hopefully)
*we see a lot of Tibetian Chowkidars in the hills who dont even know anything about SriVenkateshwara Swamy and Tirumala,and i think
that they are not Hindus (probably Buddist or Christians)
*also i found Gays near Mokala Parvatham busily asking money with the pilgrims climbing the hills
*even the temple duty personnals dont put the NAAMA or the Tilakam
I tried to call the Vigilance (whose telephone numbers are displayed in the hills) but of no use ,after reaching the top i Consulted the
local shopkeepers but the answer was "FORGET ALL THOSE THINGS its there here"
the security Officers Check all the pilgrims visiting Tirumala near Alipiri to make sure that cigarets,alcohol n non-veg and explosives are
not carried to top is all that in vains ???
All these are UNSEEN with OPEN EYES , UNSPOKE with speaking LIPS, UNTHOUGHT with THiNKING MINDS
When Muslims and Christians impose certain Compulsory Do's to enter their worship places WHY NOT WE IN OUR BHUVYKUNTAM
BRING IN STRICT CODE OF CONDUCT
IT hurts a Lot When I think OF Venkateshwara Swamy Who is Silently Tolerating all these bad activities of his So called Children and
Kindly Blessing us with all that we ask for and those we dont ask too !!!!!!!
Swamy Venkateshwara that day you told
" Parethranaaya Sadhunam Vinaashaaya Cha Dushkrutham
Dharma Shanshtapanaarthaaya Sambhavaami Yughe Yughe"
As you have assured God please come, atleast in the form of awareness and consiousness about the Dharma in our spoilt minds.........
We are waiting ..........

Vina Venkatesham nanathoananath
Sadaa Venkatesham Smarame Smaraame.....
Edu Kondala Swamy Govinda Govinda

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Hi Guys i am new to this group though i know many things happening around and in Tirumala.My Lord Venketswara Swamy has been with me in many ways in my life

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Dear Friends, As you all know, Lord Sri Krishna gave the world the peerless Bhagawad Gita for the benefit of mankind. Bhagawad Gita, the holiest message

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Wed, 06 Dec 2006 07:15:37 GMT
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/60
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Hi Guys i am new to this group though i know many things happening around and in Tirumala.My Lord Venketswara Swamy has been with me in many ways in my life

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(c) The Christian conversion and Church-planting activities have been continuing unabated in the whole country, especially for harvesting 'souls' in the entire tribal belt right from the seven-sister states to Gujarat for Jesus. The Northeast is bit-by-bit becoming a lost case.
(d) The pseudo-secularist non-resistance mode driven by vote-bank politics has been acting as a gear for the rapid proliferation and perpetuation of the said hideous designs of the enemies of holistic Bhaarat. They have since long been crafting offensive political and social pressures to sabotage efforts for HINDU UNITY, so that the Hindus become defenseless. To yield to their pressure any more would be suicidal and fatal.
3. The said sabotaging forces have been receiving limitless funds from their foreign command headquarters and patrons and are also buying their ways & means with billions of fake currency. The question, "Shall the Hindus Survive or Perish?", has to be answered by an unbeatable, invincible, self-reliant and champion Hindu society.
4. The questions are: Who can save the society? How to face the challenges? Hindus – the Rishiputras – have to secure their survival at all costs. They have to face up to the threats to their holistic way of life. Our Dharma and Culture have the power to unite the over One Billion Hindus as an invincible Nation. The enduring nature or immortality of the Hindu Nation vis-à-vis the short-lived ones in world history bear testimony to this fact. We have a case in point from recent world history that Constitution; Politics, Economics and secular progress alone could not save the Soviet Union from disintegration. This must be an eye opener. So, the Hindus have to emphasize Dharma and Cultural underpinning/anchorage/moorings and bedrock.
5. It is here that the Vishwa Hindu Parishad comes into the picture. With its 41 provincial chapters, 56,000 organizational units, 50,000 youth centers and over 30,000 service projects promoting the 3Rs (reading, writing, arithmetic) & vocational education, health, etc., in remote tribal areas, and an even number of weekly Satsangs (Sangat and Pangat), and with the visionary guidance of thousands of Sadhu Mahatmas and Dharmacharyas – with their millions of followers – and other millions of Hindutva-premi brethren – the VHP is capable of fulfilling this great mission.
6. Obviously, anyone would appreciate that, bigger assets and resources, in the forms of Blessings of Mother Lakshmi and Mother Saraswati, are essential, so that Hindu Karmayogis could reach out to all the 600,000 villages of Bharat to conduct Seva and Satsang at the grassroots level for which we depend only on our Hindu Brethren.
7. To achieve this goal of national unity and harmony and in order to boost the self-esteem, confidence and focus of our National society and to give it a sense of direction to overcome the above-mentioned problems, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad is organizing the "World Hindu Conference - III" on February 10, 11, 12, 13, 2007, at Prayagraj (Allahabad). Its inauguration will take place at 4:00 pm on February 10th 2007.
8. Over 200,000 delegates from over 100,000 villages, towns, cities of Bhaarat and also NRIs and PIOs from over 100 cities abroad will participate in the said global conference. This is going to be the biggest congregation of Hindus in recent times. All the delegates will be housed in a makeshift city of tents spread state wise over an area of 300 acres on the banks of the Ganga.
9. The expenses towards arranging for different modes of transportation, board & lodging, camp and conference infrastructure and other logistics including health care, basic sanitation, etc., is estimated to add up to about Rs. 20 crores.
10. And herein precisely lays the role of the Temples and Ashrams along with Hindu industrialists, business and trade magnets, the think tanks, and the wise with profound experience, the youth with upbeat energy, and other achievers to reclaim the ancient nation from its present perilous plight.
11. We need and request the unreserved and wholehearted substantial support of your winning self for this grand task that is as much ours as yours.
This epoch making Conference will be a landmark event in the history of Bhaarat.

With warm regards and best wishes,
Yours in the service of Maa Bhaarati and Dharma,


ASHOK SINGHAL
PRESIDENT, VHP INT'L

International Delegates' programs will commence on 10th Feb'2007 at 4:00 pm
Inaugural Session WHC – III – February 11, 2007 at 11.00 am
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The Majestic city of tents will have a decentralized arrangements, i.e. Overseas delegates, and state wise sub-cities
Overseas delegates and then every sub-city will have its own sitting, eating, and tea together
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savetirumala : Message: Re: [savetirumala] Re: sonia visit to tirumala

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Re: [savetirumala] Re: sonia visit to tirumala


Om Namo Bhagavathey Vasudevaya
Only God can answer al ....evn y sonia came there

Lord,when r u coming???????
This world has totally deprived ur devotees of love and affection.Every body wants money.Money has become the order of the day.Therz no value for people.Right from a kid to a 90 yr old man,every1 wants money.
Lord,pls save us from this hell.The world is getting unbearable to live.God,pls land on this earth.The stupid system and its ppl needs to be changed.Plz God,plzzzzzzzzzzz
We're seeing poor ppl not getting treated in hospitals coz they can't pay money.An old woman lies and the road and cries for help at the top of her falling voice for food and treatment and we c all those requests falling on deaf ears.
We c pregnant women being thrown out of hospitals coz they can't pay their dues.No value for poor ppl.
Lord,PLZ COME TO THIS WORLD.WE NEED U TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM.PLZ LORD...PLZ..............
I am Waiting.....All Of us r Waiting....Come Soooon


Anyatha Saranam Nasthi Thvameva Sharanam Mama
Thasmath Karunya Bhavena Raksha Raksho Janardhana....

Venkatadri Samam Sthanam Brahmande Nasthi Kinchana
Venkatesha Samo Deva Na Bhooto Na Bhavishyathi!!!!!!!!

Dharmo Rakshathi Rakshitaha......
Vasudevarpanamastu.....Edu Kondala Swamy Govinda Govinda



pavan kumar wrote:
TTD should not allow other religions without that registration.The process of getting registered is the good thing.Why the TTD is not following this.When it comes to god,no exception should be given to any one whether it is sonia or YS or even for Pope(Ofcourse he never visits) Rule is a rule n rule for all ..


Ravi Batham wrote:
Friends,

If what Mr.Sreeram has written is correct (non-hindus signing the register), then we should all pursue TTD to have the register signed no matter who the person is (even if it is Sonia). We should all send emails to the following email address (webmaster@tirumala.org) to force TTD to make any non-hindu visiting Tirumala sign the register. Regarding Sonia's visit to Tirumala, it can have a positive influence and strengthen the belief of uneducated people on Lord Sri Venkateswara in the country, but at the same time I am skeptic that this will give some possibility again for some christians to step into Tirumala. Also we got rid of her in 2 hours in Tirumala, otherwise just imagine how much inconvenience could have been caused to the true devotees if she had gone through a regular Q complex !!!

Also one more thing I observed is that in the www.tiumala.org website the sloka "Venkatadri Samam Sthanam Brahmande Nasti Kinchana Venkatesha Samo Deva Na Bhooto Na Bhavishyathi" has been translated as "There is a wonderful uniqueness associated with Lord Venkateswara, and His abode, Venkatadri." But its previous translation by TTD in 2002 was "There is no place in this entire world equivalent to Venkatadri. A God like Lord Venkateswara, there never was and there never will be". For some unknown reasons (who knows even some christians could have it changed by some indirect influence on TTD) , TTD changed it , which I would say as a less powerful translation. So let us demand TTD to replace this in the website.

Om namo Venkatesaya namaha


venkata sreeram vedagiri wrote:
Folks,

I am from Tirupati (born /brought-up). As per the tradition of tirumala temple, any non hindus visiting the temple should sign in a register expressing that they believe and have faith in lord venkateswara.

In 1992/93, when Congress govt was in power in AP, sonia visited the temple for the first time. When the then Executive Officer asked her to sign the register she refused and when EO insisted, the then CM transferred him out of the position then and there and Joint EO allowed sonia inside.

Now again when Samuel Rajsekhara Reddy is the CM, she has entered the temple without signing the register. Though she entered the temple through the Q complex, the Q was stopped for 2 hrs.

Sreeram


----- Original Message ----
From: Ram
To: savetirumala@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:40:43 AM
Subject: Re: [savetirumala] Re: sonia visit to tirumala


You are right, sonia should have gone in a q like all other devoties....

hope lord gives them gyan of this...



sowmya_nraju wrote:
--- In savetirumala@ yahoogroups. com, "kamalarangan"
wrote:
>
> pl debate on sonia visit to tirupathi templwe
>
I think non-hindus must not be allowed to visit Tirumala...n sonia is
a non-hindu,it was her way to attract hindus to votebank i feel,there
is a political cunning cruked mind working behind such events...whn
real devotees who strive 2 cum 2 tirumala with true luv 2 see
Venkateshwara Swamy r made 2 wait n pushed off before seeing him
peacefully.. .if she was true thn she too would hv gone in the q like
others..but she din't..pls Venkateshwara swamy open our minds to awake
bfore evrythng is OVEEEEEEEEEEEER. ..

Venkateshwara Swamy govinda govinda....

Venkatadri Samam Sthanam Brahmande Nasti Kinchana
Venkatesha Samo Deva Na Bhooto Na Bhavishyathi

Yedukondala Vada Venkataramana Govinda Govinda

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Dear RamanandThanx for the reply and your concerns!You are 100% right and first we should decommercialse the temples and it should be removed from the hands of Government.Ramanand wrote:
I think there is only one solution. De-commercialisation of all Temples. These problems were never encountered in the good old days of tirumala. All these problems started these days with the rampant commercialisation of temples by special darshan, AA darshan, Suprabhatha darshan etc.. etc... . Infact, it is the case with all temples. Why should the endowments department take over the temples, why not masjids and churches. The chilukuru balaji temple stands out as a GREAT example by not yielding to the endowments department and setting an example for an ideal temple. Sri Sri Sounder Rajan garu, the chief priest of the chilukur balaji temple is striving day and night to bring awareness among people that temples should not be made commercial enterprises. All the people also want to see that every temple should be like chilukuru temple but the endowments department wants to make chilukuru temple like other temples. This is being strongly protested by the people. The movement has already started. We just have to join the movement and make a difference to protect our dharma. please visit this link http://protectchilukurubalajitemple.com/
DHARMO RAKSHATHI RAKSHITHAHA

Rajeswari Vankamamidi wrote:
Any suggestions ?
Who can help out from this situation ?senthil kumar wrote:
Some of the incidents which are taking place in Thirumala to be opposed by all right thinking people.01. Now days the Laddu qulaity is very bad, you can find only sugars. Once upon a time Laddu was very famous. Now, the laddu making contract given to one Christian who is close to the ruling party. If any Christian accepts that the prasadam of the churches prepared by non christian?02. The Thirumala medical college collaborations and mutual understandings were tied up with the Christian medical institute " Madras Medical Mission". why tehre are several hospitals run by Hindus, Appollo, Hindhu Mission, Child trust, Sankar Nethralaya, and many. Why Hindu Devotee money is going to the Christian institutions indirectly?03. The vice chancellor of university is a Christian. How the christian can be appointed in a Hindu institution? that too in such superior post? will any christian schools will appoint a Hindu teacher?04. this vice chancellor removed Thirupathi Venkatachalapathy - Padmavathy photos in her room and most of the classes also she gifted the tables, charis of the institutions to the churches.05. The most of the building contracts were given to the chiristian contractors.06. Several times christians were caught while doing propaganda in Thirumala hills and were arrested, but based on the isntruction of TTD chief (congress man apponted by andhra CM) were released without filing any case.These are few examples. Mr. Kumarvel questioned and criticised me several times in this group and I wanted to tell him these are not done by Hindu culprits.Why this is happenings because of the CM - Samuel Rajasekara Reddy and whose instruction he is doing? The media says " based onthe instructions of missionaries"This is for the readers to judge!!srinivasan wrote:
As for as the Andhra Pradesh Govt. is concern i think they are making their state as a developing IT field that is really a encouraging one, but at the same time it is really bad that the CM who is responsible for the States Development and People Religious welfare himself is very much against it. I really wonder how he is being allowed to Tirumala Temple with the Traditional Vastras which is been provided specially to the Lord Venkateswara been Carried in his Head. The CM should be banned from even getting near the Holy Hills of Thirumala.Eventhough The Lord doesn't have desparities the Human has things inside his mind for example the CM. Will the Christians favour the Hindus to give religious Hindu Kathakalakshebam or Poojas inside a CHURCH. Iam not against any religion or religious beliefs but still each of them have been provided places for conduct or follow their own religion. If they are following their own religions at their own places well and Good. Hope the Country would be peacefull. If this issue turns out to be a political one its going to be really bad. Hope the People involved think this in a Telescopic View than a Binocular one.

Rajeswari Vankamamidi wrote:
A very correct and befitting reply. Kudos.
Why the secular Govt. is entering the temples ?
Let us raise the voice and let it be handed over to the great institution like Ramakrishna Math or any similar Religious organisation who is willing to take charge.
Let a capmaign be started to prevent the corruption on Thirumala Hills and further deteriorisation of Hindu Image.senthil kumar wrote:
This is the reply to Mr. Kumar who talked about the Hindu culprits, here are my replies.01. I dont know whether this Kumar is Hindu or christian wrote in the name of kumar, if you are a Hindu then you are also part of this culprit society. Please understand where ever big shrines - some of the irregularites are bound to happen. did you visit Velankanni - the famous christian shrine in Tamilnadu? or Nagoor the famous shrine of Muslims? witness the corruptions!! the reason is very you have more demand it bound to happen, also I am not advocating those things are correct, but as part of Hindu society what we have done to improve that? When we do not get the chance for additional laddu ot short cut in queue we blame others.02. The main reason for all these corruptions and irregularities are due to the temple managed by government and not by the people who belives in the God and followers of the path. 03. What is the necessasity for the Secular government to enter the temple? Does the secular government have the guts to take over any minorties shrines? Or where the money of Hindu temple goes? it is going as a subsify for the Muslim Haj trip!!!04. Mr.Kumar did you visit the ramakrishna Math? Sri Sri Ravi shankarjis Ashram? Ramana Maharishi Ashram? or the temples managed by societies? Please go and get the feeling! then you will understand why there are so many corruptions?05. The God is equal to all, why there is queue on different denomintaions? God discriminates? No, the government discriminates!! It utilises the devotion of the Bakthas and making money out of it!! Are you ready to stand in queue for one day, probably NO.06. Hindus drop the money in Hundi thinking that it goes for temple welfare, but where it goes - a person from secular party who did not get the seat, post or position gets it to make money. Who should lead the temple adminstration? a person from secular political party? or the religious person?Mr. Kumar please study the problem and analyse the reason, if you are Hindu Please take oath that you will stand in queue even if it takes two days, not to pay anything to poojari to get prasadams also other illeagal things...If you are christian, please do not write or involve in other religion matters!!Thank you, byecentrum journal wrote:
Dear FriendsI have been to tirumala just a few days back and found out that it is a place where things are better than last year still there is room for improvement which should be done asap my mobile number is 00919823178665 RegardsManohar
On 10/10/06, Ravi Batham <ravi_badham@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear FriendsLet us start the fight against corruption in the Holy Hills with this email itself. Those who read this and agree with this will not offer bribes / any malpractice in Tirupathi or Tirumala. They will bring such corruption/malpractice to the attention of the concerned authorities. Those who know sincere officers striving for the upbringing of Tirumala and curbing out corruption, please forward their contact information (telephone, cell numbers, etc) in this group. "All the great things start as small things". So let us make this the beginning for the downfall of sins in the Holy Tirumala. OM NAMO VENKATESAYARavikumar <krk64in@gmail.com> wrote:
very first, save tirumala from hindu culprits ....they are only damaging element of trirumala.........prevent curruption first.............which starts from thirupati toll gate ...in cottage booking....drinking liquor.....screwing pros..........short cutting ques by bribing....at hair shaving places....laddu golmals...bleady only my hindu brothers r doing such curruptions and no muslims or christians or sikh part of this mega curruptions..... ......malpractises.. ...correct first the attitude of hindu culprits...then stuggle against others later,if really they damage hinduism...or trirumala..............byekumarkrk64in@yahoo.com

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Some of the incidents which are taking place in Thirumala to be opposed by all right thinking people.

01. Now days the Laddu qulaity is very bad, you can find only sugars. Once upon a time Laddu was very famous. Now, the laddu making contract given to one Christian who is close to the ruling party. If any Christian accepts that the prasadam of the churches prepared by non christian?

02. The Thirumala medical college collaborations and mutual understandings were tied up with the Christian medical institute " Madras Medical Mission". why tehre are several hospitals run by Hindus, Appollo, Hindhu Mission, Child trust, Sankar Nethralaya, and many. Why Hindu Devotee money is going to the Christian institutions indirectly?

03. The vice chancellor of university is a Christian. How the christian can be appointed in a Hindu institution? that too in such superior post? will any christian schools will appoint a Hindu teacher?

04. this vice chancellor removed Thirupathi Venkatachalapathy - Padmavathy photos in her room and most of the classes also she gifted the tables, charis of the institutions to the churches.

05. The most of the building contracts were given to the chiristian contractors.

06. Several times christians were caught while doing propaganda in Thirumala hills and were arrested, but based on the isntruction of TTD chief (congress man apponted by andhra CM) were released without filing any case.

These are few examples. Mr. Kumarvel questioned and criticised me several times in this group and I wanted to tell him these are not done by Hindu culprits.

Why this is happenings because of the CM - Samuel Rajasekara Reddy and whose instruction he is doing? The media says " based onthe instructions of missionaries"

This is for the readers to judge!!

srinivasan wrote:
As for as the Andhra Pradesh Govt. is concern i think they are making their state as a developing IT field that is really a encouraging one, but at the same time it is really bad that the CM who is responsible for the States Development and People Religious welfare himself is very much against it. I really wonder how he is being allowed to Tirumala Temple with the Traditional Vastras which is been provided specially to the Lord Venkateswara been Carried in his Head. The CM should be banned from even getting near the Holy Hills of Thirumala.
Eventhough The Lord doesn't have desparities the Human has things inside his mind for example the CM. Will the Christians favour the Hindus to give religious Hindu Kathakalakshebam or Poojas inside a CHURCH. Iam not against any religion or religious beliefs but still each of them have been provided places for conduct or follow their own religion. If they are following their own religions at their own places well and Good. Hope the Country would be peacefull. If this issue turns out to be a political one its going to be really bad. Hope the People involved think this in a Telescopic View than a Binocular one.


Rajeswari Vankamamidi wrote:
A very correct and befitting reply. Kudos.
Why the secular Govt. is entering the temples ?
Let us raise the voice and let it be handed over to the great institution like Ramakrishna Math or any similar Religious organisation who is willing to take charge.
Let a capmaign be started to prevent the corruption on Thirumala Hills and further deteriorisation of Hindu Image.

senthil kumar wrote:
This is the reply to Mr. Kumar who talked about the Hindu culprits, here are my replies.

01. I dont know whether this Kumar is Hindu or christian wrote in the name of kumar, if you are a Hindu then you are also part of this culprit society. Please understand where ever big shrines - some of the irregularites are bound to happen. did you visit Velankanni - the famous christian shrine in Tamilnadu? or Nagoor the famous shrine of Muslims? witness the corruptions!! the reason is very you have more demand it bound to happen, also I am not advocating those things are correct, but as part of Hindu society what we have done to improve that? When we do not get the chance for additional laddu ot short cut in queue we blame others.

02. The main reason for all these corruptions and irregularities are due to the temple managed by government and not by the people who belives in the God and followers of the path.

03. What is the necessasity for the Secular government to enter the temple? Does the secular government have the guts to take over any minorties shrines? Or where the money of Hindu temple goes? it is going as a subsify for the Muslim Haj trip!!!

04. Mr.Kumar did you visit the ramakrishna Math? Sri Sri Ravi shankarjis Ashram? Ramana Maharishi Ashram? or the temples managed by societies? Please go and get the feeling! then you will understand why there are so many corruptions?

05. The God is equal to all, why there is queue on different denomintaions? God discriminates? No, the government discriminates!! It utilises the devotion of the Bakthas and making money out of it!! Are you ready to stand in queue for one day, probably NO.

06. Hindus drop the money in Hundi thinking that it goes for temple welfare, but where it goes - a person from secular party who did not get the seat, post or position gets it to make money. Who should lead the temple adminstration? a person from secular political party? or the religious person?

Mr. Kumar please study the problem and analyse the reason, if you are Hindu Please take oath that you will stand in queue even if it takes two days, not to pay anything to poojari to get prasadams also other illeagal things...

If you are christian, please do not write or involve in other religion matters!!

Thank you, bye







centrum journal wrote:
Dear Friends
I have been to tirumala just a few days back and found out that it is a place where things are better than last year still there is room for improvement which should be done asap my mobile number is 00919823178665

Regards
Manohar


On 10/10/06, Ravi Batham wrote:
Dear Friends
Let us start the fight against corruption in the Holy Hills with this email itself. Those who read this and agree with this will not offer bribes / any malpractice in Tirupathi or Tirumala. They will bring such corruption/malpractice to the attention of the concerned authorities. Those who know sincere officers striving for the upbringing of Tirumala and curbing out corruption, please forward their contact information (telephone, cell numbers, etc) in this group. "All the great things start as small things". So let us make this the beginning for the downfall of sins in the Holy Tirumala.
OM NAMO VENKATESAYA
Ravi

kumar wrote:
very first, save tirumala from hindu culprits ....they are only
damaging element of trirumala.........prevent curruption
first.............which starts from thirupati toll gate ...in cottage
booking....drinking liquor.....screwing pros..........short cutting
ques by bribing....at hair shaving places....laddu golmals...bleady
only my hindu brothers r doing such curruptions and no muslims or
christians or sikh part of this mega
curruptions..... ......malpractises.. ...correct first the attitude of
hindu culprits...then stuggle against others later,if really they
damage hinduism...or trirumala..............bye

kumar

krk64in@yahoo.com

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Some of the incidents which are taking place in Thirumala to be opposed by all right thinking people.

01. Now days the Laddu qulaity is very bad, you can find only sugars. Once upon a time Laddu was very famous. Now, the laddu making contract given to one Christian who is close to the ruling party. If any Christian accepts that the prasadam of the churches prepared by non christian?

02. The Thirumala medical college collaborations and mutual understandings were tied up with the Christian medical institute " Madras Medical Mission". why tehre are several hospitals run by Hindus, Appollo, Hindhu Mission, Child trust, Sankar Nethralaya, and many. Why Hindu Devotee money is going to the Christian institutions indirectly?

03. The vice chancellor of university is a Christian. How the christian can be appointed in a Hindu institution? that too in such superior post? will any christian schools will appoint a Hindu teacher?

04. this vice chancellor removed Thirupathi Venkatachalapathy - Padmavathy photos in her room and most of the classes also she gifted the tables, charis of the institutions to the churches.

05. The most of the building contracts were given to the chiristian contractors.

06. Several times christians were caught while doing propaganda in Thirumala hills and were arrested, but based on the isntruction of TTD chief (congress man apponted by andhra CM) were released without filing any case.

These are few examples. Mr. Kumarvel questioned and criticised me several times in this group and I wanted to tell him these are not done by Hindu culprits.

Why this is happenings because of the CM - Samuel Rajasekara Reddy and whose instruction he is doing? The media says " based onthe instructions of missionaries"

This is for the readers to judge!!

srinivasan wrote:
As for as the Andhra Pradesh Govt. is concern i think they are making their state as a developing IT field that is really a encouraging one, but at the same time it is really bad that the CM who is responsible for the States Development and People Religious welfare himself is very much against it. I really wonder how he is being allowed to Tirumala Temple with the Traditional Vastras which is been provided specially to the Lord Venkateswara been Carried in his Head. The CM should be banned from even getting near the Holy Hills of Thirumala.
Eventhough The Lord doesn't have desparities the Human has things inside his mind for example the CM. Will the Christians favour the Hindus to give religious Hindu Kathakalakshebam or Poojas inside a CHURCH. Iam not against any religion or religious beliefs but still each of them have been provided places for conduct or follow their own religion. If they are following their own religions at their own places well and Good. Hope the Country would be peacefull. If this issue turns out to be a political one its going to be really bad. Hope the People involved think this in a Telescopic View than a Binocular one.


Rajeswari Vankamamidi wrote:
A very correct and befitting reply. Kudos.
Why the secular Govt. is entering the temples ?
Let us raise the voice and let it be handed over to the great institution like Ramakrishna Math or any similar Religious organisation who is willing to take charge.
Let a capmaign be started to prevent the corruption on Thirumala Hills and further deteriorisation of Hindu Image.

senthil kumar wrote:
This is the reply to Mr. Kumar who talked about the Hindu culprits, here are my replies.

01. I dont know whether this Kumar is Hindu or christian wrote in the name of kumar, if you are a Hindu then you are also part of this culprit society. Please understand where ever big shrines - some of the irregularites are bound to happen. did you visit Velankanni - the famous christian shrine in Tamilnadu? or Nagoor the famous shrine of Muslims? witness the corruptions!! the reason is very you have more demand it bound to happen, also I am not advocating those things are correct, but as part of Hindu society what we have done to improve that? When we do not get the chance for additional laddu ot short cut in queue we blame others.

02. The main reason for all these corruptions and irregularities are due to the temple managed by government and not by the people who belives in the God and followers of the path.

03. What is the necessasity for the Secular government to enter the temple? Does the secular government have the guts to take over any minorties shrines? Or where the money of Hindu temple goes? it is going as a subsify for the Muslim Haj trip!!!

04. Mr.Kumar did you visit the ramakrishna Math? Sri Sri Ravi shankarjis Ashram? Ramana Maharishi Ashram? or the temples managed by societies? Please go and get the feeling! then you will understand why there are so many corruptions?

05. The God is equal to all, why there is queue on different denomintaions? God discriminates? No, the government discriminates!! It utilises the devotion of the Bakthas and making money out of it!! Are you ready to stand in queue for one day, probably NO.

06. Hindus drop the money in Hundi thinking that it goes for temple welfare, but where it goes - a person from secular party who did not get the seat, post or position gets it to make money. Who should lead the temple adminstration? a person from secular political party? or the religious person?

Mr. Kumar please study the problem and analyse the reason, if you are Hindu Please take oath that you will stand in queue even if it takes two days, not to pay anything to poojari to get prasadams also other illeagal things...

If you are christian, please do not write or involve in other religion matters!!

Thank you, bye







centrum journal wrote:
Dear Friends
I have been to tirumala just a few days back and found out that it is a place where things are better than last year still there is room for improvement which should be done asap my mobile number is 00919823178665

Regards
Manohar


On 10/10/06, Ravi Batham wrote:
Dear Friends
Let us start the fight against corruption in the Holy Hills with this email itself. Those who read this and agree with this will not offer bribes / any malpractice in Tirupathi or Tirumala. They will bring such corruption/malpractice to the attention of the concerned authorities. Those who know sincere officers striving for the upbringing of Tirumala and curbing out corruption, please forward their contact information (telephone, cell numbers, etc) in this group. "All the great things start as small things". So let us make this the beginning for the downfall of sins in the Holy Tirumala.
OM NAMO VENKATESAYA
Ravi

kumar wrote:
very first, save tirumala from hindu culprits ....they are only
damaging element of trirumala.........prevent curruption
first.............which starts from thirupati toll gate ...in cottage
booking....drinking liquor.....screwing pros..........short cutting
ques by bribing....at hair shaving places....laddu golmals...bleady
only my hindu brothers r doing such curruptions and no muslims or
christians or sikh part of this mega
curruptions..... ......malpractises.. ...correct first the attitude of
hindu culprits...then stuggle against others later,if really they
damage hinduism...or trirumala..............bye

kumar

krk64in@yahoo.com

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Save Tirumala


Dear Friends,
Numerous incidents of dirty christian propagation in the Holy hills
of Tirumala has drawn the media and public attention to some extent.
This was unimaginable at first and slowly the fact settled down in
our minds. This is clearly an instance of christian aggression and
fraudulent means adopted by them for conversions. If this continues,
the oldest, wisest, and the noblest of all religions - our Hindu
religion - will be threatened. And our politicians, for the sake of
power are willing to put anything at stake for their selfish needs,
even the Holiest and most revered Hindu temple in the
world, "Tirumala" !!! First of all use your power (vote, influence
or whatever it takes) to eliminate such political parties from
power. Second of all choose a party that will protect and restore
the Hindu culture and tradition in our Hindustan. The reason is that
minorities are never threatened in a Hindu dominated community but
the contrary is never seen in the pages of history (Pakistan,
Bangladesh, Vatican, etc). Secularism has no meaning if it is one
sided. Vatican, the so called holy place for christians, doesn't
allow any other religion in its surroundings but power cries for
propagating christianity in Hindustan. Is this fair? TTD is
following a anti-hindu approach by protecting the traitors who tried
to propagate in Tirumala. Please ask yourself if the authorities at
Vatican will tolerate if a hindu propagates at vatican. Definitely
no.Now the TTD chairman is Karunakar Reddy, who according to one of
the members here is an evangelist. What on earth is happening in
TTD? Can you imagine a christian missionary or even a school giving
power to a Hindu ??? There is always a limit to tolerance and if it
is pushed to the limits disaster happens. So, friends think and as
it has been repeatedly stressed, express your intolerance to such
fraudulent activities. As a first step you may call up TTD EO
Mr.Sharma (877-2264160 or 877-2264977) and smash him for being a
puppet in the hands of anti-hindu govt. OM

: "Anti-Religious Activities at Anti-Religious Activities at World Famous Holy Pilgrimage centre.

This is a collection of very disturbing articles about increased
christian activities in an around Tirumala Tirupathi Devasthanams
(Famously) known as "Bhoovaikuntan" (Heaven of Earth). This Activities
being carried out in the name of Secularism are aimed at hurting the
holy nature of this pilgrimage centre and undermining the Hindu
Community's faith in Lord Venkateshwara. This Compliation of articles
for awareness of the society, has been collected from articles in the
all the leading News papers and Magazines.

1) Andhra Pradesh Government under the Leadership of Y.Samuel
Rajshekar Reddy has stated that Only 2 of the 7 hills are scared.
(Lord Balaji is known as "Saptagiriwasa" (Lord of 7 hills). Every Hill
has some sacred i! mportance attached to the Hindus). The Christian
Government of Andhra Pradesh is planning to lease over 100 acres of
Temple for construction of Churches, Hotels & pubs, wine stores,
butcher houses and Multiplexes and Commercial establishments. Prior to
this The Present Christian Controlled Andhra Government has already
sold over 800 Acres of Temple land to various Christian Missionaries
in Other Districts of Andhra Pradesh.

2) The Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister's action is to enroach the Temple
land to appease his boses in 10 Janpath and in Vatican.

3) A Church is already come up near the Holy hills of Tirumala.

4) A Government decision to appoint a Christian Vice Chancellor to Sri
Venkateshwara University for Men and Shri Padmavathi University for
women run by TTD.

5) Removal of photographs and Idols of Lord Venkateshwara and Goddess
Padmavathi from the university premisis and replacing them with the
Christ's and Mary's Photographs.

6) There is an intentional distribution of Bible and other Christian
literature among students of Schools and colleges studing in this
universities.

7) There has been a deliberate attempt to appoint Christians as
Officials in TTD Administration to run the Holy Temple of Hindus.

8) The Andhra Pradesh Government's action of appointing a Christian
owned Organisation M/s JRG Wealth Management (Owned by Mr.G.B.Mathew,
a Syrian Catholic from Kerala, & who is also said to have close links
with Sonia Gandhi) to make and distribute World Famous 'Tirupathi
Laddu', which is considered to be Lord Venkateshwara's sacred blessing
from all Hindu's alike. ( Tommorow, this Christian may add any
substance which may be fatal to the devotees of Lord Venkateshwara and
it becomes easy for them to pass the blame on the Temple and on Hindus).

9) Government's decision to use the Hundi offerings to non-Hindu
activities without any consent from the Devotees, the Government is
infact spending the Hundi offerings belonging to Hindu devotees on
Cleaning up the Sewage Drains, Vetereniary services and other
degradeable jobs, instead of spending the same funds to develop Hindu
culture and religion.

10) Deva Sangeetham, Principal of S.V.University College is openly
indulging in propogating and converting the students to Christanity by
making them go to the church, reading Bible and Creating disaffection
towards Hindu Religion. After Deva Sangeetham has taken charge as the
Principal, the practice of garlanding the Portrait of Lord
Venkateshwara was stoppped. The Vice-chancellor of Padmavathi
University for Mahila Ms. Veena Noble Das, she is sending batches of
students in the university buses to the church. if there is any
protest from the students, the students are debarred from the
University by falsely implicating them in some in case.

The Christians, Sonia Gandhi, Y.Samuel Rajshekar Reddy from time to
time are testing the Patience of Hindus.

If this Nonesense does not stop and if they do not mend their ways,
they will be responsible for the backlash which is very much in store
in coming days.

Information Reference :
1) Vijaya Karnataka, a kannada daily (20-6-06)
2) Eenadu Daily, A Telgu Daily
3) Deccan Chronicle, (15-06-2006)
4) Vikrama (28-05-2006)
5) Sudarshan TV (24-06-06)
6) Pungava news Magazine (1-06-06)a

savetirumala : Save TIRUMALA

savetirumala : Save TIRUMALA: "Present siutuation Of Tirumala
Please think on this:
1. Can a non muslim or non-christian be appointed in any position of power in muslim or christian institutions?
2. Can these governments, sell Wakf or missionary property, as they were selling temple lands in AP?
3. Why should government exercise control on hindu temples, when they don't have any right to control a madarasa/mosque or a church and its funds?
4. Can the government change name of a christian or muslime educational institution? But can change Sri Padmavathi Mahila University into 'womens University'.
5. Sri Padmavathi Mahila University Vice-Chancellor, Ms. Veena Noble Das, has taken the portriats of Lord Balaji and Goddess Padmavathi from her chamber and installed Christ. This university is run by funds from TTD.
5. Look at the facts:
a. Endowments (deparment that controls all temples)commissioner in AP: is a christian.(Rosaiah)
b. AP Chief Minister: Y Samuel Rajasekhara Reddy
c. Chairman TTD: Karnukara Reddy - Christian and his wife is a christian.
d. Joint Executive Officer TTD: One of the 2 is a chirstian.
e. Garden Superintendet of TTD: Christian
f. TTD run college principal (S.V.Arts and Science college): Christian
Now this is the time to UNITE "

savetirumala : Save TIRUMALA

savetirumala : Save TIRUMALA: "Present siutuation Of Tirumala
Please think on this:
1. Can a non muslim or non-christian be appointed in any position of power in muslim or christian institutions?
2. Can these governments, sell Wakf or missionary property, as they were selling temple lands in AP?
3. Why should government exercise control on hindu temples, when they don't have any right to control a madarasa/mosque or a church and its funds?
4. Can the government change name of a christian or muslime educational institution? But can change Sri Padmavathi Mahila University into 'womens University'.
5. Sri Padmavathi Mahila University Vice-Chancellor, Ms. Veena Noble Das, has taken the portriats of Lord Balaji and Goddess Padmavathi from her chamber and installed Christ. This university is run by funds from TTD.
5. Look at the facts:
a. Endowments (deparment that controls all temples)commissioner in AP: is a christian.(Rosaiah)
b. AP Chief Minister: Y Samuel Rajasekhara Reddy
c. Chairman TTD: Karnukara Reddy - Christian and his wife is a christian.
d. Joint Executive Officer TTD: One of the 2 is a chirstian.
e. Garden Superintendet of TTD: Christian
f. TTD run college principal (S.V.Arts and Science college): Christian
Now this is the time to UNITE "

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A very correct and befitting reply. Kudos.
Why the secular Govt. is entering the temples ?
Let us raise the voice and let it be handed over to the great institution like Ramakrishna Math or any similar Religious organisation who is willing to take charge.
Let a capmaign be started to prevent the corruption on Thirumala Hills and further deteriorisation of Hindu Image.

senthil kumar wrote:
This is the reply to Mr. Kumar who talked about the Hindu culprits, here are my replies.

01. I dont know whether this Kumar is Hindu or christian wrote in the name of kumar, if you are a Hindu then you are also part of this culprit society. Please understand where ever big shrines - some of the irregularites are bound to happen. did you visit Velankanni - the famous christian shrine in Tamilnadu? or Nagoor the famous shrine of Muslims? witness the corruptions!! the reason is very you have more demand it bound to happen, also I am not advocating those things are correct, but as part of Hindu society what we have done to improve that? When we do not get the chance for additional laddu ot short cut in queue we blame others.

02. The main reason for all these corruptions and irregularities are due to the temple managed by government and not by the people who belives in the God and followers of the path.

03. What is the necessasity for the Secular government to enter the temple? Does the secular government have the guts to take over any minorties shrines? Or where the money of Hindu temple goes? it is going as a subsify for the Muslim Haj trip!!!

04. Mr.Kumar did you visit the ramakrishna Math? Sri Sri Ravi shankarjis Ashram? Ramana Maharishi Ashram? or the temples managed by societies? Please go and get the feeling! then you will understand why there are so many corruptions?

05. The God is equal to all, why there is queue on different denomintaions? God discriminates? No, the government discriminates!! It utilises the devotion of the Bakthas and making money out of it!! Are you ready to stand in queue for one day, probably NO.

06. Hindus drop the money in Hundi thinking that it goes for temple welfare, but where it goes - a person from secular party who did not get the seat, post or position gets it to make money. Who should lead the temple adminstration? a person from secular political party? or the religious person?

Mr. Kumar please study the problem and analyse the reason, if you are Hindu Please take oath that you will stand in queue even if it takes two days, not to pay anything to poojari to get prasadams also other illeagal things...

If you are christian, please do not write or involve in other religion matters!!

Thank you, bye







centrum journal wrote:
Dear Friends
I have been to tirumala just a few days back and found out that it is a place where things are better than last year still there is room for improvement which should be done asap my mobile number is 00919823178665

Regards
Manohar


On 10/10/06, Ravi Batham wrote:
Dear Friends
Let us start the fight against corruption in the Holy Hills with this email itself. Those who read this and agree with this will not offer bribes / any malpractice in Tirupathi or Tirumala. They will bring such corruption/malpractice to the attention of the concerned authorities. Those who know sincere officers striving for the upbringing of Tirumala and curbing out corruption, please forward their contact information (telephone, cell numbers, etc) in this group. "All the great things start as small things". So let us make this the beginning for the downfall of sins in the Holy Tirumala.
OM NAMO VENKATESAYA
Ravi

kumar wrote:
very first, save tirumala from hindu culprits ....they are only
damaging element of trirumala.........prevent curruption
first.............which starts from thirupati toll gate ...in cottage
booking....drinking liquor.....screwing pros..........short cutting
ques by bribing....at hair shaving places....laddu golmals...bleady
only my hindu brothers r doing such curruptions and no muslims or
christians or sikh part of this mega
curruptions..... ......malpractises.. ...correct first the attitude of
hindu culprits...then stuggle against others later,if really they
damage hinduism...or trirumala..............bye

kumar

krk64in@yahoo.com

Save Tirumala

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Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:57:46 GMT
skr1785
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/27
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/27
Everything is happening because the cheif minister of Andhra Pradesh is christian - Mr. Samuel Rajasekara Reddy. Who selected them - Hindus. It is the mistake

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Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:02:02 GMT
Ravi Batham
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/26
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/26
Dear Satish I know my response is delayed but your statement "to make Tirumala and Tirupati as Vatican Cities" sends out a false meaning to the people. I know

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Fri, 13 Oct 2006 07:53:44 GMT
Ravi Batham
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/25
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/25
I think after what happened to the Kanchi Matt Guruji, who is regarded as the head of the Hindu religion, all other Gurujis are afraid of raising their voices.

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Fri, 13 Oct 2006 07:52:51 GMT
Ravi Batham
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/24
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/24
Dear Friends Let us start the fight against corruption in the Holy Hills with this email itself. Those who read this and agree with this will not offer bribes

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Mon, 09 Oct 2006 09:41:44 GMT
rainbow remo
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/23
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/23
Jai Hind! Have u anytime read the social books?in that have u noticed , that any lesson , regarding our heroes is always is hidden, ex: shivaji, bhagat

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Wed, 04 Oct 2006 09:12:53 GMT
Ramanand
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/22
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/22
Hari Om, I agree with Ramesh in most of the points he mentioned. But we have to devise a strategy and follow them without fail to acheive success. Just empty

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Sun, 01 Oct 2006 04:45:22 GMT
kumar
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/21
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/21
DEAR SREERAM GREETINGS TO YOU. FIRST THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EXPRESSING YOUR CONCERN ON MY VIEWS........GOOD............ ALSO I THANK YOU FOR ADMITING OF YOUR

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Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:38:44 GMT
rainbow remo
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/20
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/20
we agree that we dont have unity, but what is the cause that is making hindu people to think of self and their family, now coming to the political party i

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Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:29:16 GMT
venkata sreeram vedagiri
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/19
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/19
Kumar, I understand your frustation on the corruption front and i appreciate it. Let me ask you one straight question? Person who encourages corruption is

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Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:51:31 GMT
kumar
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/18
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/18
very first, save tirumala from hindu culprits ....they are only damaging element of trirumala.........prevent curruption first.............which starts from

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Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:50:38 GMT
Ramanand
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/17
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/17
Hari Om, I completely agree with you. We also share your feelings . I agree to your comments that we are not united. There are very few people in this group.

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Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:52:05 GMT
v_v_sreeram
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/16
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/16
I agree.. We hindus don't have unity and we look at our "self" first. Recently, when a "darga(where muslims pray - a piece of wall)", was demolished in

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Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:08:27 GMT
youth India
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/15
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/15
Annamacharya, The Saint-Composer was born in the year 1408 According to Telugu "PANCHANGAM"(calendar) the month & star of His birth are : Vyshakha Masam l

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Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:25:07 GMT
shatheesh.c. vattyam
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/14
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/14
Dear Friends We have think about the Parmanent solution for this , Nobody should not touch Tirumala in the next Generations too. My Suggestion to all is, its

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Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:14:25 GMT
crazy_murthy2002
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/13
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/savetirumala/message/13
-- hello. iam Ram , chirstanit is not duthy .because its a god for some peoples,thaey are doing mistakes..that we have to stop.,we dont have any rights to